Comments on: 3G is finally here http://windowsil.org/2007/10/11/3g-is-finally-here/ Your window into the Wireless Systems Innovation Laboratory Sun, 27 May 2012 13:09:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.3 by: Steven Peters http://windowsil.org/2007/10/11/3g-is-finally-here/#comment-19792 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:43:57 +0000 http://windowsil.org/2007/10/11/3g-is-finally-here/#comment-19792 Wow, I actually wrote "callet" instead of "call it". The engineering side of my brain is slowly taking over the rest. Wow, I actually wrote “callet” instead of “call it”. The engineering side of my brain is slowly taking over the rest.

]]> by: Steven Peters http://windowsil.org/2007/10/11/3g-is-finally-here/#comment-19791 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:43:00 +0000 http://windowsil.org/2007/10/11/3g-is-finally-here/#comment-19791 Well, between 3G and 2G there is a 50% G increase. Between 3G and 4G there is a 33% G increase, and so on. Eventually consumers will get leary of having so many G's. Marketing people will eventually just callet LG, Last Generation. And the one after that will be Super LG, and finally STITLG (Seriously, This Is The Last Generation). Although I'm surprised how much marketers use engineering terms, like people know what they mean. CDMA, MIMO, etc. I guess it's sexy to have confusing buzzwords on your box. Well, between 3G and 2G there is a 50% G increase. Between 3G and 4G there is a 33% G increase, and so on. Eventually consumers will get leary of having so many G’s.

Marketing people will eventually just callet LG, Last Generation. And the one after that will be Super LG, and finally STITLG (Seriously, This Is The Last Generation).

Although I’m surprised how much marketers use engineering terms, like people know what they mean. CDMA, MIMO, etc. I guess it’s sexy to have confusing buzzwords on your box.

]]> by: Robert Heath http://windowsil.org/2007/10/11/3g-is-finally-here/#comment-19750 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 05:58:27 +0000 http://windowsil.org/2007/10/11/3g-is-finally-here/#comment-19750 Well, I was trying not to disclose the manufacturer of my device but, let me say, it is indeed HTC. They make phones for a lot of people - it doesn't surprise me that google is jumping on. I had the experience of using google maps with the built in GPS for the first time. Cool! Bob - 2.5G vs. 3G for a GSM device is easy since 3G supports CDMA whereas 2.5G just GMSK based TDMA (for voice) and the addition of EDGE with 8-PSK for data. Steve - We get a new G about every 10 years. So you are about right, something like 25G would be appropriate. Not sure it is incremental. System spectral efficiency is certainly increasing by more than 4% - which is the real sell to service providers. For us though, 2G voice versus 3G voice, honestly can't tell the difference. The data rate is higher though. Well, I was trying not to disclose the manufacturer of my device but, let me say, it is indeed HTC. They make phones for a lot of people - it doesn’t surprise me that google is jumping on. I had the experience of using google maps with the built in GPS for the first time. Cool!

Bob - 2.5G vs. 3G for a GSM device is easy since 3G supports CDMA whereas 2.5G just GMSK based TDMA (for voice) and the addition of EDGE with 8-PSK for data.

Steve - We get a new G about every 10 years. So you are about right, something like 25G would be appropriate. Not sure it is incremental. System spectral efficiency is certainly increasing by more than 4% - which is the real sell to service providers. For us though, 2G voice versus 3G voice, honestly can’t tell the difference. The data rate is higher though.

]]> by: Steven Peters http://windowsil.org/2007/10/11/3g-is-finally-here/#comment-19726 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 01:35:02 +0000 http://windowsil.org/2007/10/11/3g-is-finally-here/#comment-19726 Each G gets more and more incremental. 200 years from now, will they be celebrating 26G wireless communications? "Now with 4% more G!" Each G gets more and more incremental. 200 years from now, will they be celebrating 26G wireless communications?

“Now with 4% more G!”

]]> by: Bob Daniels http://windowsil.org/2007/10/11/3g-is-finally-here/#comment-19702 Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:07:00 +0000 http://windowsil.org/2007/10/11/3g-is-finally-here/#comment-19702 BTW, it appears that the manufacturer of your 3G phone <a href=http://www.dailywireless.org/2007/10/10/gphone-rumors/ rel="nofollow">is helping google make their "GPhone"</a>. BTW, it appears that the manufacturer of your 3G phone is helping google make their “GPhone”.

]]> by: Bob Daniels http://windowsil.org/2007/10/11/3g-is-finally-here/#comment-19701 Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:03:17 +0000 http://windowsil.org/2007/10/11/3g-is-finally-here/#comment-19701 What distinguishes a 3G device from a 2.5G device? What distinguishes a 3G device from a 2.5G device?

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